2/13/18 EASI Webinar Transcript

 

 Should be able to hear us now. [Laughter] I see typing going on, it looks like. All right. You should hear us now.

 Well by my handy-dandy little iPhone... we will start recording

 Recording now.

 By my handy-dandy iPhone it's about a minute after. So others may be popping in as we go so we will go ahead and get started. Welcome everybody to the second session of read and write. We titled this read and write, a tool for everybody which really is an appropriate title for... anyway, this session we are going to be looking at the reading tools. Just a little update on last week's session. I apologize for the technical errors that we had, the technical issues that we had. Fortunately, Sean and I had record little video clips for the two things that we shared last weekend you all should have had a link to those on YouTube to make up for not getting that information done correctly last week. If you did not get a link to two YouTube videos, one on the toolbar and one on setting up speech, let me know. Sean put my email address in the chat window here but be sure and email me and let me know that you did not get that and I will send it to you directly so that you can have the videos for last week's topics.

Also, I apologize, we don't have last week's recording up yet. Because there were also some issues with that. But we did find out that Windows updates were the big problem or technical issue last week so we tried to make sure we didn't have any of those coming in today so hopefully they won't pop in and be gremlins for us.

 But anyway, the Zoom recording last week actually cut off after just a few minutes so last week's session, and Norm does not have that up yet because I messed around and did not get it to Norm in a timely manner so I apologize for that as well. I think we are much more on top of things this week technically speaking so hopefully the recording of the session will go better and the presentation of read and write will go better as well. We've been testing it for about the last 30 minutes and everything worked great so we will pray that that continues.

 Okay read and write actually has four areas that it addresses. Reading, tools for reading, tools for writing, tools for research and tools for study. So this week we are going to be touching on the reading tools., Show you some of those. Next week will be there writing tools and in the last week we will cover both the study skills and research tools.

 So first off I'm going to Explain a little bit about the reading buttons. On the read and write toolbar you, if you want to use the other tools you have to use the spot button, not the follow button. The rewind and forward buttons will work depending on the setting that you have it set to in the read by settings, so if you have it set to read by sentence clicking forward is going to jump forward to the next sentence, back is going to jump back to the previous sentence. And same if you have it set by paragraph or wherever it is going to jump by those blocks and you will see that here in just a few moments. So and that is the basic uses of the reading tool. The reading buttons. Of course by the play button there's a drop-down button that opens the speech menu and so we are going to go there first because I'm going to make a few adjustments and I'll explain while I'm doing this.

 The first thing I'm going to set it to do is read by paragraph and turn off automatically read by next block. Okay. Then we are going to go over to a word document and I'm going to go grab this off the flash drive for me. Okay we are there. Good. Blind car thief for someone to read this document all they have to do is click on the first part of the text where they want to start reading and [inaudible]

[Screenreader: police have arrested Romania's blind car thief for stealing a car and crashing into a tree for the second time in one month. At this time 24 minutes to drive the stolen car 25 miles before crashing into a stew reports the newspaper of allegedly stole the car with another blind pal and decided friend in the passenger seat telling him which direction a drive.]

... sentence or word and then it reads those blocks to you. When I got to the end of that block it stopped. Now if I wanted to read the paragraph again I would just open it up and click the play button. If I wanted to go to the previous paragraph, which in this case it would be the title at the top, I would click back and it would read that. If I want to go to the [inaudible] I would click the forward button. And it would read the next paragraph. If the document had blank lines between paragraphs which a lot of documents do, read and write will probably stop at the blank line, so clicking forward once will just take you to the... within the paragraph and clicking forward again will actually take you to the next technical paragraph if you will. So that is how that works.

 Now the reason I chose paragraph is I'm thinking from the point of view of a student doing proofreading. Because I know probably most of us in this are people who work at higher education or education facilities and people are writing papers and proofreading. So by doing this I'm able to see that all the information in this paragraph go together. Is this a good paragraph. Do I have stuff in there that shouldn't be in the paragraph. Do I need to break it into more than one paragraph or is it too short. By hearing it read back to me it helped me focus on that information. If I was doing a tighter, more cutdown proofreading, in other words I wanted to know each sentence, make sure my sentences are correct I would switch to read by sentence and have it stop, not automatically read every block. That way I can hear each sentence and if I tell students if you type a sentence and it plays back and it takes two minutes to read it you probably have a run-on sentence and you may want to do something with it. If you click play and it takes two seconds and it's done then you probably don't have a full sentence and you need to work on it. This is a way of proofreading depending on how they want to proofread and I recommend students go through the paper twice, once reading by paragraph making sure the paragraphs are together and the second time go by paragraph sentences to make sure the sentences sound correct.

 What if I am just reading for information? For example, this is just an article I'm reading to see what it says I don't want to have to sit here and click forward every paragraph so that is where I would go back to the speech menu. We will job that, drop that down and I'm going to set it to read by sentence this time and turn off automatically read next block and we will let it read a little bit for you so you can see the difference and we will go to the next block and start reading there.

[Screen reader: a police spokesman said he drove the car following instructions from his friend who could see but again the journey ended with a crash. We were astonished for a second time in a month by the same man]

... it depends on what style you are reading, what is the purpose and how it will work for you.

 Larger or smaller font does not affect the text to speech feature

 Using firefox [CART lapse] wherever, let's go down to the point we see in the bottom EASI resources provide opted information

[Screen reader]

... so you see that the green buttons up at the top are still

[Screen reader and voicing]

... where the text is reading what is reading but generally the easiest way to do it is to hover over text using your mouse

[Screen reader]

... and it tries to grab a lot of information if you're not there quickly

[Screen reader]

  So you can bounce around the page, read what you want to when you want to and again, Firefox and chrome do have plug-ins for this you just need to make sure that they do install appropriately but I would suggest just sticking with Internet Explorer if you are using that feature. Not a whole lot really to cover with the read the web. Robert can you think of anything there that you would want to add?

 The only thing that I would point out is that Sean did not have to click the places to get it to read. That's one problem I have with a lot of my students who are so used to clicking on thing so they move the mouse over it and start clicking but that actually delays read and write grabbing the text and reading it and it could actually click the link so it takes a little bit of getting used to t concept of putting your mouse, hover and click, so it gets to read the text you. Once it starts reading my students want to move the mouse over to someplace else because they are used to putting over to the other side of the screen out of their way while they are working reading so they move the mouse [inaudible] put them out there and let it sit while it reads is what I try to train my people to do.

 Any questions on read the web? Okay looking good. All right. We can go ahead and close this down. Now we are going to look at PDF allow. So this is a PDF reader that is built into read and write. You cannot see it right here because we have all of these different tools up on our reading toolbar so again whenever you have additional tools you are going to see this... writer when you click on that you will see PDF allowed. So when PDF aloud going to have access, so going to use this file another wonderful story that Robert likes to use. It's pretty funny though.

[Screen reader]

... so with PDF Aloud

[Screen reader]

[Inaudible background voice]

... you will be able to click wherever you want to go let's go ahead and change... to read by sentence and so with PDF allowed you click where you want it to read if you wanted to start at the beginning and I want to go ahead and turn off the continuous automatically reading text feature for this, the, something that you will notice is that you don't have the ability to use the rewind and forward buttons. So, navigating if you're not listening to the whole thing at once you will want to click around the page. If you're trying to skip content.

[Screen reader]

 So one of the things you will see is if that you... stop and play it will start from the beginning. So you don't want to avoid using that... stop button and just use the pause button if you want to continue where you left off. Similarly to what Robert was talking about earlier when he was explaining these... buttons something to keep in mind when you are working inside a PDF allowed and the way that you control the audio and navigation of it because you are lacking a couple tools that you would normally have inside a word document. Did you want to touch on anything else with this? [Inaudible]

 Do we want to be brave and try showing PDF tools?

 We could show them. We will see if they work or not.

 I will explain what we were just... you can actually have the PDF allowed tools show in Adobe reader if you're using Adobe 10 or 11

 We have one question here... PDF can have pictures does the document just not have pictures

 This document does not have pictures, PDF allow does not strip the pictures out and if memory serves me correctly if there is alt text on the picture read and write will read the alt text. Going to make a note to myself to double check that and I will clarify that next week if I'm right or wrong on that but I believe read and write will actually read the alt text if it is there.

 All right, so we are going to jump into Adobe reader. And I will show you what we were talking about. Hold on. So there are features inside of Adobe reader that get you access to be able to use PDF Aloud. Now if we go to extended up on the top right and we pull the extended thing we will see the PDF allowed toolbar. This gives us really the quickest beat and also gives us additional navigation tools and can read by word, sentence, paragraph with the options being continuous reading. We have not been able to get this to work recently. You will see the highlighting happen, but for some reason the audio is not working. I know Roberts been in touch with tech help to figure out what is going on with that. Do we have any updates?

 One thing I noticed is that my  Acrobat is not up to date. I've got notices to update it and I have not done that yet that could be part of the problem but textile is also looking into because this is something that recently started happening. It should be reading within the PDF document. The speech should be there as well as everything else. And so again when we know more from the textile systems and their support people we will let you know what is going on here too.

 All right so that is the PDF allowed features. And now we will move on to speechmaker.

 Okay, speechmaker is a nifty tool. A lot of our students are athletes or they like to work out. They are very busy. We are a feeder campus so we have people who sometimes drive quite a distance to get here. We have students who drive from Leavenworth. We have a Leavenworth campus but a lot of them still drive down to our main campus for classes. That's a 30 to 40 minute drive depending on when they are coming with from. So they spend a lot of time on the road, on the bus. So this tool can be very helpful for somebody in those situations because what this allows you to do, and we are going to use our blind car thief document again. It allows us to select some text and so we're going to select some text in the document and go ahead and click on the speechmaker tool. And it's going to let us create an audio file of this text. Just an MP3 file. You can change the format to be a wave if you want to but MP3s are smaller and what most people are used to using. So we select the text and click on the tool and it gives us a couple options. We can see the text that is going to convert. There is a limit on how much, but I can't remember what the size of how much text it can take. I have not hit that problem in the past. It's a pretty good size chunk of text you can put in there. But anyway, it lets you give the file a name and we are just going to call this practice. Or, let's call it test. Sorry. Let's call it test. So it won't interfere with the other file. And we're going to let it be MP3. We are going to save it to my flash drive which is called test drive so we are going to set that.

Now that we've got all that said if I wanted to change the speech settings here I could. We can go select different voices. We can adjust the rate and things like that. But I'm just going to go, actually we will set it to UK Daniel because I kind of like that voice. So we're going to select UK Daniel and then we're going to tell it okay and it will create an MP3 file of this article. And save it on my flash drive. And then if I'm going to be going out jogging I can put this on my MP3 player and listen to my textbook while I'm jogging. And of course we all know every student wants to listen to a textbook while they are jogging. But it does really give students an opportunity to listen to material that they will maybe take a test over, while they hop on the bus and they have a 20 minute ride to college while they take the test it's a good way to review information before they actually have to jump in and take the test.

[Screen reader]

 We have a question [inaudible] listen to textbooks in a tanning booth [laughter]

... you got nothing else to do right? But yes, you can, students do study in all places, so and if they have audio text it makes things easier. So we have told, have had students who have try to get books through, we have not students with disabilities they have students from the general population they try to get books from Amazon so they can hear them while they drive to and from work or to and from school. So this is a very popular thing for people to do. It is easy to do. It does not take rocket science to do any of that. But the hardest part is actually figuring out how to get it to your device once you've got the MP3 file created.

 Okay so we are going to now moved to Sean doing the dictionary's.

 All right, so up on the top left you will see we have a couple different dictionaries. Let's go ahead and get that. We are going to start with just a regular dictionary. I'm going to show you the drop-down menu here. Here are the basic definitions, basic definitions and web definitions. We are going to start with the basic one. The web definitions I use is Google. You want to be connected to the Internet. Keep in mind that it does use a Google dictionary so if you want to use web definitions you will need that on. So putting it on the basic definitions let's go with how about... car or tree..., let's use tree so we are going to select the word tree. And once we get that word selected then we will just hit the dictionary icon. It's going to pull up a word that we have. If we go like this and changed into something else we want to which we might, then it has the definition. The cool thing about this is that we can also hear the definition so if we go

[Screen reader]

... really gives you a nice little sentence. So we are going to close this and we are going to go back out and set it on advanced. So again, select our word using the same one and now we have a lot more definitions. So if for example this might be a college paper and they need multiple different definitions or once you have some different ideas or different things that could possibly, this might be a better option than if maybe if it's not something important and you just need to know what the last definition showed us like just one basic definition you have the option to still just play it...

[Screen reader]

... so it is really cool that you can also read definitions.

 I was just going to say for a college student, working in the college setting actually even high school students I would recommend going to the advanced dictionary because some word usage is more advanced. Gives better definitions. The basic dictionary is probably okay for junior high or elementary students, but I would not recommend it for anything else. What I actually found is some words are not even in the basic one. So for example we used custodian one time and the basic dictionary it did not even come up and when we switched to the advanced dictionary it did come up.

 Something else I want to show you insight here is this advanced feature. So in here it's going to show us different types of trees or different kinds of trees. The tree is a part of these things, part of a tree or related to tree. So let's actually change our word and, let's change it to car. And it will have our definitions and then we can go to different kinds of truck. And then click on the words and then on the right you will see that there are additional words that we may end up wanting to use. Is it a dump truck or a tipper truck, Tipper Lorry, not sure what those even are, so let's learn something today. It should let us click on those, but... it does not want to, so let's see. I messed that up. Hang on a second. Let me get back in there.

Something else that we can do and actually I will show you this because it took me there anyways, when we go to the dictionary it will allow us to make adjustments so we don't actually want this document to say car. We can switch it over to say automobile. So now says police have arrested Romania's blind automobile thief, which sounds entertaining as well. So lots of different things that we can do in here.

 I wanted to show... something but let's go with branch. So here we are going to look at branch is a part of these things. So I typed in the word branch as our word so this shows different things that a branch may be. A watery way... sorry. That's okay.

[Phone ringing]

[Laughter]

 Yeah, okay. Sorry.

 So here you can kind of get a lot of information as far as different kinds of branch or branch as part of these things, parts of a branch and then we could do like leaf and see what that comes up with. A leaf is a part of these things. So, just a lot of really cool things you can do in here to find different information and be able to use different words if you were looking to make any adjustments or polish certain aspects of your writing.

 Okay let's jump over and now let me give you a little example there. A gentleman was telling me that he was trying to remember what a particular

... we've got a question coming in sorry. That's for later go ahead.

... he was trying to remember a name of a cloud. He couldn't remember. So he went in there and put in cloud and of course clicked on types of cloud and it brought up all the different types of cloud and he was able to check the definitions to make sure he was getting the right cloud. So that is one way it can help another example was trying to remember the type of tree bugs so they put in... type of tree and it was oak and parts of the oak tree were acorns so that is how they found that so it can almost be used as a research tool as well. So dictionary, thesaurus, spellcheck kind of thing all of that can be done with this dictionary built into read and write.

 Jessica from KU is asking a question for later but we can go ahead [inaudible] missed last week because she was out and wondering if we were recording this and if so can she get a copy.

 These sessions are being recorded. Unfortunately last session’s did not record well but I did post the two links to cover the material that we showed last week so you should have those. They are actually on YouTube if you did not get those let me know but today we are recording the whole session and that will be posted and I'm going to do a much better job getting that to Norm ahead of time so he can post it. We are also going to try posting the transcript from the captioning window as well in case you want just the transcript. Are you going to show the picture dictionary?

 I sure am.

 Picture dictionary this is kind of cool.

[Inaudible]

... perfect, thank you so much. So picture dictionary is pretty fun. So, again this will give you the different options, which are use the word or use the word on the clipboard, we are going to use the selected word crashing. When you click on it it gives you a picture of things crashing. Red and blue car, and a ball against a wall it looks like. So if you are not sure what it means and you would like some visual aid on showing you, you can do this and you still have access to the dictionary by clicking on the word crashing. Which takes you right over to the dictionary advanced definitions. Showing you all the same features that we previously had.

 You might point out that that seems pretty elementary or an elementary tool. We've also found this to be helpful for students who English is not their first language and they are reading and it talks about a scroll. Well what on earth is a scroll. You know, they can use the picture dictionary to bring up a picture of it and say that is what it is. Scroll is pretty simple. That might not be as complicated, but other things that they are reading about might not be as clear so they can pull up a picture of it and see it and then they know in their language what that is and it helps them make that connection with the English language we are working in now so it is very helpful for people for whom English is not their first language or people that just need visual reference to things. Maybe some memory issues. It's a very powerful tool in its own right.

 Also connected to some stuff we will do next week.

 We are going to do study skills in the fourth week.

 Something to look forward to there. We will definitely be coming back to some fun pictures at some point. So that is it for the dictionaries.

 Okay and that is pretty much it. Initially in this session we covered the translator as well. We weren't going to do do that today because I didn't think we would have time but when I thought about it, it actually, we usually run out of time on that because we go hands-on. So Sean do you want to do the translator real quick?

 Sure, might as well. We also [inaudible] if we still have time.

 Let's do the translator because I think that could be helpful especially if you are working with people again, English is not their first language or maybe somebody having to translate some words from English to a different language. So we will demonstrate that and also if you have any questions on what we have already covered in you need to go back and redo something we will have time to do that so go ahead and be thinking of your questions while Sean takes a couple minutes to demonstrate the translator for us.

 Now we are going to go to translator options and see the different languages we translate from. And translate through. So we're going to stick with Spanish. As you can see there are a lot of options now. There are display settings. There are a lot of different things we can control including voice settings which we believe that medium. But you may end up wanting to get those slower or faster depending on your competency in certain languages. We are going to click okay and let me see if there is anything else that we need to, let's go ahead and leave it there... mess with the translator in a while. So [inaudible].

Okay so we're going to click on police and here we will see the noun and the verb.

[Screen reader]

 You stay over there.

[Screen reader]

[Both speaking]

... my apologies

[Screenreader: Police noun...(Spanish)]

 So again with my lack of using this recently I forgot you just click on it to have it read so you do get the, now that you are coming through as far as what it should sound like and then of course you have

[Spanish screen reader]

... examples of, we have a preferences tab and here you can switch from French, Spanish, German and Italian. For this translator, you can control the voice speed. And let's check something else out really quick

[Inaudible]

... let's do that. Okay. It's going to read it for us.

[Screen reader in Spanish]

 okay. So with this one you see that it opens up a different window... so it's not going to operate the same way [inaudible] section here, so this one for paragraph translation will go to text and then translator, what you see now is the view that you get when you use one of those tools that are not on the menu up top. So that is why it looks a little bit different. [Inaudible] these main sections when you are using these drop downs. And what you may need to remind me on this is this one does open it up inside of Internet Explorer. Is this something that you have to be connected to the Internet when you're using the paragraph translator

 Yes you do have to be connected to the Internet because it uses Google translator. So goes online to Google translator for the actual translations. So this is one of the tools that you do have to be connected to the Internet to use. Picture dictionary is another one you have to be connected to the Internet to use. Not the regular dictionary, but picture dictionary. If you are using the regular dictionary setting on the web you do have to be connected to the Internet but not for basic or advanced.

 And then you will see there's a little play button over on the left side it to play

[Spanish screen reader]

... and any questions over those? I don't see any questions coming through. I think we are good to continue.

[Inaudible]

... why not. We are working on stuff

[Both speaking]

[Laughter]

... don't think I have the pronunciation turned on so we're going to move through the pronunciation theater now and since we don't have it currently available in the toolbar we are going to go down to the general options, so remember what we did last week and this is where it becomes handy to know where all these different tools are. And how to get them added on the tool bar. [Inaudible] suggestions. So we are going to go down and find our pronunciation tutor. There it is. And actually I'm going to remove a couple of these just so we can see those up top. So we're going to get rid of... suggestions and for now get rid of the dictionaries. Okay. So we have all of our different tools up here in the translator that it would look like normally would be this guide. So the pronunciations here [inaudible] drop-down for it let's say that we want to know a word that [inaudible] then we select the word and click the pronounce icon.

[Screenreader: Automobile]

 You will see that it has the pronunciation with the lips moving with it digitally. You have that broken down. Into syllables. You can change the voice here. Let's see what it sounds like with, let's try Microsoft a bit.

[Screenreader: automobile]

[Laughter]

 David does not sound too good on that.

 Then if we go to our advanced... we can display the phonetic letters, which look very confusing to me. So if you are reading those or know somebody who can or who would like to use them, they are there. And then the equivalent. So just information that I personally would never use that information, but just to show you that. It is there. You don't have to use the lips, and that voice is not good for me.

[Screenreader: Automobile]

 That is better for me.

 And purposely, even though the speed on the voice is set up and purposely slows down and annunciate each syllable. So that you can get a better, so someone trying to learn how to pronounce a particular word can hear it in a slower format so it's not a matter of the voice is messed up or it slowed it down it automatically goes back so that if you go back to read the document it will go back and read the voice.

 As you see if you want to type in a word there is an editable box so you can go type in a word if you want to do that while you are in the pronunciation tutor.

 I will talk about, if you are done with that

 Yeah, go ahead.

 I will talk about another  reading tool that we don't usually touch on because you don't have the technology in the lab but read and write has a scan tool, and basically what it lets you do, say the student, the teacher forgets to send you a document so you can convert it in electronic  format and they want to have an article from a magazine and he gets a hard copy that is supposed to be read before the next class. You don't have time to convert it because they don't have time to get it to you. The student can actually take this if they have a scanner, connect to their computer, scan it in and it will save it as a Word document. It will do OCR, optical character recognition and save it as a word document so they can read it. It may not be perfect. He will not be as nice as what somebody with a full set up running through Abby fine reader and all of that and going through word to find heading styles and all of that it may not be as nice as what they get with that but at least that is, it is something they can read. And they can save it as a Word document, give it a filename, keep it and they have it for future reference as well. That is a very nice tool. Another feature about the scanning tool is if you get an image only PDF you can pull it into the scanning tool and it will do OCR on it and save it as a Word document. So again it can be read the same as if they went to a hardware scanner.

So the tool can be very beneficial to the students and it's part of the reading site. It helps someone to read hardcopy information that they may struggle to read. And I think we have pretty much covered all of the actual reading tools that we were going to cover. And a couple of extras. That's okay. I'm glad to know we had plenty of time. If there is anything that you'd like us to go back and re-demonstrate or explain in more detail we'd be happy to do that even if it is something from last week that you'd like to see in better detail we can try to go back and do that. We have about 10 minutes here. And while you are thinking of the questions I will say thanks to Mr. Norm and EASI for sponsoring the webinars and I'm glad to see the technology actually worked better this week so it's going much better than it did last week. But thank you, Norm for sponsoring the webinars and I hope they are beneficial to you guys and we can get some information and ideas about how to use the read and write and all of its tools. Sean will also go ahead and put all of our contact information into the chat window so you can contact. It will be in [inaudible] window as well.

 I have a question. When you demonstrated translation [audio breaking up]

 I'm sorry, Norm

... translating a word. What if you had a whole page and you wanted to... what if you were... how long would it take to translate a page?

 I think there is a text limit on how much. I don't know what that limit is but it is more a function of the Google translator then of read and write. So I believe you could select the whole page and have it translated. It might take a little bit longer. That's going to depend on a few things actually, depend on your Internet connection, speed, how fast your Internet is, are you going wireless as opposed to hardwired and what limit [inaudible] but as you saw Sean selected a whole paragraph and it translated almost instantaneously. So I think it would be pretty quick.

[Sound of typing]

 If they have any questions they can contact you

 Or you…

[Laughter]

 I think Sean probably knows the ins and outs, workings of this program better than I do now because he's played with it more than I have over the past few years.

 I actually played with this program a little bit when I was going through my Masters program going through the highlighting feature and the sound if I was up later for some reason reading some papers or doing whatever I needed to do online and research it just helped me to focus.

 I think that is called cramming.

 I was always prepared and was super proactive. It definitely helped me staying focus on what was actually reading instead of reading a paragraph or a page or a few pages and then thinking what did I actually read and then having to read it I found this program beneficial just for the reading tools.

 That's why it's not just a tool for people with disabilities but tools that can have the general population as well.

 Robert says he has found PDF aloud is very finicky with [inaudible]

 I have not had students complain about that with the exception of students getting image only PDF from instructors and they did not going on and why it was not why it would not read. I think it's got more to do with whether the PDF is tagged correctly or not. I may be wrong on that but I personally have not had that kind of feedback from students. We've had issues when PDFs were not tagged correctly. If you use the automatic read next block it may not read the

It may jump up of the read the heading, then jump down and read further and then the

That's because the read order and the tags tree in the PDF document are not set up correctly and you will get that from a lot of publishers unfortunately the PDF files we get from publishers are usually not tagged or if they are, they are not tagged correctly.

 I'm not seeing anything else coming through the chat.

 I do agree if I can get students a Word document of a textbook as opposed to PDF I will generally do that unless a student, and I have a lot of students even when I gave them the choice they want PDF. They don't want to the word document. They want PDF. And my visually impaired students, no, they do not want PDFs as a rule. They want the word documents. Okay well it looks like we don't have any questions. Sean and I will hang around for a couple more minutes here in case any questions pop in but other than that we will see you next week and next week we will be working with the writing tools to see what kind of tools this program offers to help with the writing process.

 Does the student have to buy this, does the teacher have to buy this what kind of money are we looking at.

 Very good question. I did not take time to cover that last week but I will do so now. Read and write has different option so if I was an individual and I wanted to buy it for myself I would probably spend about $600 for it. But as an institution we bought unlimited site licenses. We have three campuses, so we have unlimited site licenses for all of our three campuses. And you can buy some add-ons to go with it and one of those is a home license. So not only can we put it on any campus computer, any of our three campuses, but we can also give a copy of it to any student enrolled with us or any employee of the college to take home and put on their personal computer at no charge to them. And a lot of institutions are using this tool now. They are using that for all of the students, not just as with disabilities. I know the University of Florida just saw a presentation from them this past summer at the ahead conference where they have made three programs available or all technologies available for all the students. One is read and write so students can log in with student ID, go to the webpage and download the program to their computer and have it. They don't have to be a student with a disability. They don't have to come register with anybody. They just have to be an enrolled student at the college. So it's a very good tool and we have a lot of students that I've helped set it up and get it going on personal laptops. I had a student use it on iPad Pro. I've had a student use it on the... Microsoft... surface Pro three. I take it back. It was not... that it was a different tool. Sorry. But the Microsoft tablet. We set it up on there. They were able to use it. And we set it up on Windows laptops and Mac laptops and had good success on all those platforms. I have not tried to do anything on a Google laptop. On a chrome laptop yet. A chrome book. But we have used it on the iPads. MacBooks. And Windows laptops with good results.

 We also want to thank you for a great presentation. And all of the information. A lot to digest. There was some cool stuff.

 It is a very cool tool. And thank you. I'm glad it went better this week than last week.

 I agree. All right.

 So what's next week again?

 Next week will be the writing tools. We are looking at tools to help with the writing process. The spellchecker which, I love the spellchecker and read and write and the homophone checker, vocabulary, sorry that is... Vocabulary Builder will be last week but the spellchecker, homophone checker, speak as I type, those kind of tools. Word prediction. All of that will be in next week's session. Okay.

 Thank you

 All right, we will be  sending out an invite to Tuesday's meetings and so same bat time, same bat channel.